MCPE-70782Cured villagers offer too big of a trading discount
Cured zombie villagers offer too big trading discount. Everything will cost only 1 emerald or item.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Cure a zombie villager
- Open the cured villager's trading UI
- Notice the cost of every trade
Observed Results:
Everything costs only 1 emerald/item
Expected Results:
Trade costs should match Java Edition.
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Villagers discount
Cured zombie villagers offer too big trading discount. Everything will cost only 1 emerald or item.
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Cured zombie villagers offer too big trading discount. Everything will cost only 1 emerald or item.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Cure a zombie villager
- Open the cured villager's trading UI
- Notice the cost of every trade
Observed Results:
Everything costs only 1 emerald/itemExpected Results:
Trade costs should match Java Edition.
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Thank you for your report!
We're actually already tracking this issue at MCPE-70782, so I will resolve and link this ticket as a duplicate.
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Thank you for your report!
We're actually already tracking this issue at MCPE-70782, so I will resolve and link this ticket as a duplicate.
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The more modest discount applied now is correct. From the changelog for 1.16.100.51 beta:
- Trade discounts from Hero of the Village and Curing Zombie Villagers now match the Java Edition (
MCPE-70782)
Hayley: The reset of trade discounts is working as intended and is the result of the fix for MCPE-70782. Going forward, discounts will be more modest and not all items will be discounted.
The visual effects of villagers sliding off their beds, through walls, etc., and even their total disappearance after you lose sight of them, is a visual bug only. In reality, they remain in their beds and are as safe as they have always been. You can fix the visual problem using any method that causes the chunk their bed is in to be reloaded: Use a Nether portal, move outside simulation distance of the bed, or save and reload the game.
This is currently WAI, see MCPE-70782
For now the discount has been changed to 1 emerald. The 1 emerald trades were not intended, see MCPE-70782
Same, on 1.16.100 Ubuntu Server 20.04. Likely has something to do with this (from the changelog):
- Trade discounts from Hero of the Village and Curing Zombie Villagers now match the Java Edition (
MCPE-70782)
As has been mentioned, trades were changed in 1.16.100 to match Java per MCPE-70782
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Just to make sure I understand this correctly, here's what I did:
1. I spawned two villagers in 1.16.0, turned one of them into a zombie villager and cured it. Both villagers' prices dropped to 1 emerald/item for everything, which was a bug (MCPE-70782) that is now fixed in 1.16.100.
2. I updated the game to 1.16.100 and both villagers had a -1 discount on everything.
3. I turned the cured villager into a zombie villager and cured it again. It got a -6 discount on everything, while the other villager got a -1 discount, which is consistent with how this works in Java.
So, the expected results would be:
- villagers affected by
MCPE-70782have a -6 discount for every time they have been cured before the fix; - other villagers in the village have a -1 discount for every time they have seen the player cure a villager before the fix;
- curing villagers in 1.16.100 grants a -6 discount for the cured villager and a -1 discount for other villagers.
Could you please confirm if this is correct?
This is intentional. Previous discounts to 1 emerald were caused by a bug that was fixed in MCPE-70782.
Not a bug, this is a feature
I don't think that it's a feature because villager offered everything only for 1 emeralds after only 1 curing.
Why do you think it's a bug?? It's not good?
I just compared Bedrock and Java mechanic
Even if it is a feature it's too OP, I can sell 1 Rotten Flesh for 1 Emerald....
Intended feature for parity with Java Ed.
No, this is not the intended behavior - this creates a knock-on bug that was addressed in the Java version already, as this creates multiple infinite emerald loops including the librarian 1 bookshelf for 1 emerald and 1 emerald for 1 book. trades The price should be reduced by a factor, not all the way down to 1 emerald / 1 item for every single trade regardless of starting price, and there should be different minimums depending on the trade to avoid the above infinite loops.
Whilst we are making villager trades match Java, can we make it so curing discounts are persistent like Java rather than degrade over time?
Come on why did you have to report this :/
If this is parity with Java, villagers should as well hold the discount forever
Whether it’s not supposed to work that way or not, the current version now makes it a complete waste of time to even try and get a discount. The new “discount” only takes 1 off your total. I would rather pay full price now instead of this. Why would anyone even bother at this point to cure any villager. I’d be okay having the price cut by 25%, preferably 50%, but paying say, 49 instead of 50 is insulting. I get we’re trying to basically be like Java, but this shouldn’t have to match them...OR Java gets switched to how Bedrock was before 1.16.100.51.
I believe that the discount was 50-80% with villager 1.0 as I was saying to Helen recently. I think you should have some old mc versions to check on that.
I was thinking that this issue was part of a facade until hero, gossip and popularity were implemented. So glad I saw this since Helen isn't allowed to say anything much.
If implementing everything as I suspect in the para above, I hope that subsequent overrides do not get bugged as well, e.g., hero discount over curing discount reverts to curing once hero expires and that the remaining curing time is as if the hero never overrode it, i.e., the hero time IS deducted.
That way you do not get infinite discounts, you do have to do something positive to reinitialise curing discount and effectively 'roll the dice' again. I believe that this would be an engaging and well received method of doing things imho.
1.16.100 is still not Java parity: villagers lose their discounts after a certain time.
Really dislike the changes to the cured villager discounts in latest update. While I agree that trading 1 piece of paper or rotten flesh for an emerald to a cured villager is OP, only discounting 1 emerald from the cost is too drastic of a shift in the other direction. Really does make curing villagers pointless. Think something in the neighborhood of 50% discount would be much better.
This is a ridiculous change. I agree that the previous system was OP, but this makes curing pointless. And it's not Java parity, because according to the wiki (I haven't played Java) the discount is -5 emeralds per cure. This patch changes it to -1 for everything (item cost and emerald cost).
This change doesn't make sense at all. Countless hours spent to cure villagers and have a good trading hall and now it's useless. Aligned with Kevin on this one a 100%
L'augmentation est beaucoup trop importante ! Je suis déçu
We've spent so much of our gold to make a good trade center filled with lots of villagers, all tp just got to waste, a reduction of 1 emrald isn't much. It should be half of or even 75%. Villager curing has been made useless.
This "fix" absolutely sucks.
There is little to no discount now from villagers, if I can recall, cured villagers on java had some pretty decent discount, so when it came to bedrock, I was thrilled. This "fix" has sucked all that excitement out of me, but I will admit some of the trades were a tiny bit op... cough–one stick for an emerald--cough
So my 40 cured villagers now offer books for 49 emeralds instead of 50 OH BOY!!! Hours and hundreds of resources gone to waste thanks mojang great "fix". I wasted hundreds of gold ingots and even farmed those dumb brown mushrooms just for yall to give me a 1 emerald discount what a joke even 25% wouldve been acceptable. Days of work made worthless by 1 "fix" great job guys
Please support with your votes and comments the following post so this gets corrected.
MCPE-106235THIS IS NOT A FIX THE OLD ONE WAS A LITTLE OP BUT THIS IS NOT EVEN A DISCONT THIS IS NOT FIXED BEFORE IT WAS MORE OP THAN JAVA NOW IT IS NOT EVEN A DISCOND MAKE IT MATCH JAVA
Those who are complaining here should understand what they meant first. In Java you can bring down the trading price via repeatedly convert & cure villagers (read this page Trading). As far as I have tested, the new trading works the same way as the video below, which is in Java.
Reference: Easy Villager Trading Hall Tutorial with Zombie Discounts (Java Edition 1.16) Starting from 14:50.
(However, I hope Mojang could spend more time fixing the missing Java features in Bedrock, for example
MCPE-40651. Vote for this one!)W10104 I think you're assuming we don't know that but not sure if you read the description of the issue. You're specific test if for a new villager but all of us have spent countless ours and resources to build trading halls which now are useless as the price is the same as if you get a villager from a breeder only -1 difference as explained.
We're not against parity change just needs to be implemented right backwards so you don't break what exists.
If you want improvements on Java features this is not the right place as it is for bedrock.
BDSAC
MCPE-40651is talking about a bedrock bug (as you can see from its name). My point is that we should keep reminding Mojang of overlooked "bad" disparities, instead of complaining when they randomly remove "good"(OP) ones.If you read my link about trading, you can see the cure "spreading" in Java indeed only reduces the price by 1 (actually 1.25), presumably tied to the "minor_positive" gossip value. However, I agree that the game does have trouble remembering if a villager has been cured before, for which I have filed a relevant report in MCPE-106839. You need more than "asking it back" to justify a change in the game.
Is this what happened to my trading hall? I wasted about 150-200 golden apples to get all their prices down to 1 emerald and now there is a 1 emerald discount, if I knew that Mojang was going to ruin my trading hall I wouldn't of wasted 200 golden apples on it. I don't think that reducing their trades are op as I was in the late game when I reduced them so I could have just as easily spent hours mining rather than hours grinding for gold, chopping down forests for apples, finding a spider spawner, grinding for blaze rods. Basically, my point is it takes time to get the stuff to discount them, and just because they are discounted doesn't mean that I still don't have to harvest carrots. Very sad that all the time I put into Minecraft was pretty much undone by one update. My personal opinion is that when you cure a villager it should only affect that villager and reduces the quantity by 5-10.
so do we have to cure them 4-5 times to get same discount as before?
some villagers need to be cured only 2 times to make everything for one emerald others needed 5 cures. It really depends on the trades prices so you need to cure a villager 5 times if his trades if his trades are so expensive. Also the villagers around the cured will only decrease the trade by 1 emerald so if you want to have good discounts cure the villagers. If you have a lot of villagers you can cure a villager more than once and the villagers around will decrease the prices more but they will not decrease after 10 cures
So "bug" fix = same outcome + needless extra steps that only waste our time? I bet whoever reported this one was the kid that would always remind the teacher they forgot to assign homework. 😂🤔😐