Projectiles (including arrows) sometimes pass through entities without hitting them
As seen in https://clips.twitch.tv/ResoluteElatedOysterWTRuck arrows sometimes pass through mobs without harming them.
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MC-201902Projectiles pass through entities sometimesDuplicateMC-230626 arrows go through mobs using bowDuplicateMC-231407Arrow noclip can be abused with shieldsDuplicateMC-238137Arrows passing through Creepers and SkeletonsDuplicateMC-248217Snowballs Sometimes Pass Through MobsDuplicateMC-261757Arrows sometimes pass through the player/bounce off the player for no reasonDuplicateMC-267534Arrows shot by the player can go through mobsDuplicaterelates to6
MC-102732Arrows visually bounce off of entities that don't wear a shieldConfirmedMC-125936When projectiles spawn inside a hitbox, they don't hit the hitbox of the entity they are inside
ImportantMC-270852Fully charged projectiles that are thrown or fired at a nearby shulker will not deflect properlyFixedMC-125776Thrown projectiles sometimes don't collide with players that are traveling upwardsConfirmedMC-140857Arrows bounce off entities during their invulnerability ticks
NormalMC-271539Arrows deflected by a Breeze go through blocks and players/mobsWon't FixAttachments1
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Arrows sometimes noclip through mobs.
As seen in https://clips.twitch.tv/ResoluteElatedOysterWTRuck arrows sometimes pass through mobs without harming them.
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Arrows sometimes noclip through mobs.
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Also can I suggest a revise of the Mojang priority for this? If priority labels are not up for debate than just ignore this request, however I've been encountering this issue far more often than I remember in 1.17 now in 1.18/1.19, I'm wondering if something was changed that made it worse because it really feels like it. It feels like especially in PvP my arrows only work 80% of the time, compared to what I'd say is like a 95% chance in 1.17. This is just speculation, though.
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Duplicate of MC-214546.
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MC-214546
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MC-147233
Skeletons shooting arrows can have their arrows bounced off a shield, through them, and into another mob. Initially discovered this bug while caving and used it to kill bats, but during testing found this can be used from everything from getting zombies to attack skeletons to creeper farming.
Testing also confirmed that this is abusable as long as you are between 1.1 and 4ish blocks away.
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When the player shoots a projectile at a closed shulker or a breeze from a distance of 1-3 blocks away, the projectile will almost instantly be deflected at the camera's position, never getting near the entity.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Summon a shulker with no AI:
/summon minecraft:shulker ~ ~ ~ {NoAI:1b} - Fire an arrow at it from 1-3 blocks away
→ observe result - Fire an arrow at it from >=4.5 blocks away
→ observe result
Observed Behavior:
When firing it from a closer distance, the arrow will almost instantly be deflected at the camera position, and the player's view will be visually cluttered from all the arrow and particles created. The arrow will also not damage the player due to MC-125936 and/or MC-214546. When attempting this same issue with breezes, the behavior is less noticable comparatively (shown in the video/s)
Expected Behavior:
The arrow would get near the shulker's hitbox before being deflected properly at close distances just as it does from further away.
Screenshots/Videos:
Reproducing the issue from a third-person perspective:
ShulkerDeflectClose1.mp4
ShulkerDeflectClose2.mp4
Reproducing the issue in first person:
ShulkerDeflectClosePlayerView.mp4
I am able to reproduce the reported behavior. While this may seem like a duplicate of MC-102732, it appears as if the reported behavior started occurring in, or is occurring much more frequently since 24w36a. This has previously been mentioned in a comment on MC-214546, which may be a related issue.
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Not sure if that relates since the projectiles spawned several blocks away.
Can confirm in 21w05b. Haven't seen it yet in 21w06a, but that's not to say it's fixed.
Major bug for pvp and pve, refered to by most players that experience it as "Ghost Arrows".
This also happens with any projectiles, not just arrows.
Maybe this should be renamed to "Projectiles sometimes go through mobs" or something similar.
Reiterating: major bug for combat, and I believe this should be more prioritized.
Can confirm this in 1.18.
Since netherite knockback rng was fixed for 1.18.2, would be nice to see the other major PvP bug fixed for 1.18.2 as well (this one).
So I figured out what's actually happening here, and the bug should be renamed to better reflect it. When this bug occurs, the projectile is completely fake. It has nothing to do with the projectile not hitting mobs, when this bug happens the projectile doesn't exist at all. It can happen with ender pearls during combat, where you throw it, watch it, and when it lands nothing happens. Bug is similar to the old ghost buckets bug but with projectiles. Report should be renamed to reflect this.
Also requesting ownership as the OP is no longer updating affected versions.
@PotholedSea40 I assume by "not existing", you mean that the projectile appears on the client, but the server doesn't recognise it as an entity and therefore doesn't update it. I don't think that's the issue as this bug also happens on Spigot servers and I have been able to "patch" and detect this bug through a plugin by doing my own raytracing. This suggests that the projectile does exist on the server, and even though I am using Spigot, it's highly unlikely that there would be two different causes for the exact same bug. It seems as though internally, the projectile's collision isn't being detected by the server, which means that even Spigot isn't aware of the collision (as the ProjectileHitEvent doesn't fire automatically), however I don't know enough about Spigot's architecture to make any conclusions here.
Either way, I don't think those observations are enough to definitively rule out any other possibility, although there is a very simple test you can do to confirm your theory. Setup a repeating command block that runs the following command.
execute if entity @e[type=snowball] run say hiThen spam snowballs at an entity one at a time until the bug is observed. If the projectile still clips through entities despite being detected by the command, then it exists.
I assumed that updating affected versions was a thing the mods did, as the only update I posted was the snapshot version, and mods would update when someone confirmed the bug for a new version as happens with many other bugs. If you want versions added, just do what Avoma and co have done, as I have a job (and playtest other games in my freetime) and can't always confirm it exists on new versions (especially since I've encountered the bug three to four times ever when I do test for it. I suppose I could write a bot to shoot the bow for me and then detect when the arrow doesn't collided with the mob after a certain amount of time to test on eash version, though,
Keep in mind that your experience isn't everyone's, just because you yourself haven't run into a bug a lot doesn't mean it doesn't effect others much more. The reason I highlighted this one specifically is because it's such a major issue for PvP, and can feel extremely unfair when it happens (which is very often on combat servers).
By focusing on one thing trying to usurp a freaking bug report from someone instead of commenting what versions are currently affected and aren't listed, all you are doing is wasting everyone's time.
As I said in my previous post, which you failed to read:
Do what Avoma has done and post versions you can confirm this bug on, and it will be added to the report. Otherwise you are creating unnecessary drama.
Mate chill, I simply asked and gave a reasoning, this isn't some crazy occurence on this site nor should you being taking immense offense to it. Can confirm in 22w15a.
Finally, some useful info.
Adding it to the list.
This bug likely happens because in one tick, the projectile is in front of the mob, and in the next tick, it is behind, never making contact. a way of fixing this would be to add a raytraced check to see if the projectile's path intersected a mob's hitbox.
Again I don't think this is the case because you can't pick up ghost arrows (which is why I made the claim that they are purely visual). I'm actually not 100% sure if the projectile shot/thrown that ghosts through stuff disappears from your inventory or not.
@Torzod Minecraft is definitely doing raytracing; if it didn't, then this bug would be significantly more prominent. You could test this yourself by summoning a super fast arrow and observing that the projectile still collides with mobs even though the projectile may have otherwise flown straight through the mob.
@PotholedSea40 It's possible that the projectile simply isn't colliding with anything (even blocks), and there might be some client-side code that handles animations and particles for collisions with blocks. That's not to say that the projectile doesn't exist on the server (see my previous comment), however a way to check this could be to see whether the same projectile clips through multiple mobs when the bug occurs. That would test whether the bug is a property of the projectile, or of the collision.
confirming and updating for 1.19 pre release 1
Can confirm in 1.19 pre release 5
Can confirm in 1.19.1 rc1
Can confirm in 1.19.1-pre5
Can confirm in 1.19.2
Can confirm in 22w44a.
Can confirm this in 1.19.3.
Can confirm in 23w03a.
I'm locked out of my microsoft account, but if someone could, it might be helpful to see exactly how far back this goes so that Mojang can narrow down exactly what changes might have started causing this.
Judging from when I first made a bug report video of this happening, I believe this issue first appeared in 1.16. It could have been a bit before then in 1.15, but I can 100% guarantee that it didn't pop up any later than 1.16, and I'm 99% sure it wasn't an issue before 1.15.
Can confirm in 23w06a.
Can confirm in 1.19.4-pre3
Can confirm in 23w12a
Can confirm in 23w18a.
Can confirm in 1.20 release canidate 1
Can confirm in 1.20.1
Can confirm in 23w31a.
Can confirm in 23w32a.
Can confirm in 1.20.2
Can confirm in 1.14, took 3 weeks of monitoring a slow-fired creeper farm built exclusively for testing for this to find, but can be repeated fairly easily once it does, not sure why
Can confirm in 23w40a.
In 23w43a.
can confirm in 1.20.4
Can confirm in 24w06a, affects wind charges
Confirmed in 24w07a
Can confirm in 1.20.5-pre1
{}Can confirm in 1.20.5 & 1.20.6-rc1
Can confirm in 1.20.6 and 24w20a
can confirm in 1.21 through to 1.21.4
interestingly - in 1.21.2+ when this bug occurs, the game summons a "ghost arrow entity" where the arrow appears to bounce off the entity it ghosts through, but then the actual arrow entity reappear to have landed where it should be