Lily pads and frogspawn cannot be placed when not aiming at water
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MC-72634Lily Pad placement noise inconsistentFixedMC-135157Crops cannot be planted by aiming at the side of a blockFixedMC-218114You can use the item in your offhand if the lily pad in your mainhand cannot be placedConfirmedMC-237476Placing lily pads on the side and bottom of ice results in them being placed on the top of the ice instead
LowMC-140651Sweet berry bush cannot be planted when aiming at the side or bottom of a blockFixedAttachments9
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Lily pads cannot be placed when not aiming at water
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[Placement] Lily pads cannot be placed when not aiming at water
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Lily pads and frogspawn cannot be placed when not aiming at water
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I don't think MC-136405 should be marked as related. Apart from being a block placement issue, it doesn't have much in common with this.
Relates to MC-136405
Found while testing MC-136405, and probably has a very similar cause.
Targeting this block mostly concealed by water results on it being placed atop the water, rather than attempting to replace the water as with any other block.
Closely relates to MC-136405.
The bug
Unlike most blocks, when right clicking on a replaceable block such as a vine, if the player is holding a lily pad or frogspawn, that block will not be placed even if it would have been placed in a valid position.
How to reproduce
- Create a setup with vines against a wall above water
- Right click on the vines, intending to replace them with a held lily pad
- Attempt to place the lily pad atop the water directly instead
Expected results
When targeting the vines, the lily pad would be placed.
Actual results
It is not. The lily pad is placed just fine, replacing the vine, if the water is targeted instead.
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All varieties of minecarts (regular, hopper, chest, furnace, and TNT) can only be placed when aiming directly at rails. It's not possible to place them by targeting adjacent blocks. In the provided image, I'm attempting to place a minecart on the rail adjacent to the block I'm aiming at, but it's not functioning as expected. This contrasts with the placement mechanics of blocks or other entities like armor stands and spawn eggs.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Place down a rail, with an adjacent block next to it
- Right click the block with a minecart item
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The minecart is not placed.
Screenshots/Videos:
Notes:
Relates to MC-136405
When targeting a block which is a valid placement position for frogspawn or lily pads, the game will favor the camera/look direction's raycast and place the block in an unexpected or undesired position.
(By raycast, I mean a straight line created from the player's view to the first water source block it hits)
Steps to Reproduce:
- Create a 3x3x3 pond of water
- In the center-most position, place a block
- Stand on the edge of the pond (allowing space for placement on top of the water in front of you)
- Target the front-half of the block inside the pond
- Try and place a lily pad or frogspawn
Observed Behavior:
The block is placed on the water block closest to the player.
Expected Result:
The block would be placed above the center block, because it was targeted.
Screenshots/Videos:
In this example, I am trying to place the lily pad above the white wool. While this position is valid for placement, the lily pad is put on top of the water block my camera first views, instead of being placed on top of the block I am targeting.
water_blocks_place.mp4
Notes:
- To clarify; while this is very similar to MC-226518, it is different as that issue specifies the block is being placed when it otherwise should not be placed at all. In this instance, the block should be placed, but is put in the wrong position. The two however are closely related.
- Other related lily pad/frogspawn placement issues:
MC-237476 MC-256407 MC-136405 MC-245845 MC-218114 MC-206807
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It seems to matter exactly where you click, because sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't place the lily pad. From a couple of observations it works if the block targeted is adjacent to water and has another adjacent block to "attach" the lily pad to eventhough it doesn't need it.
See here where all crosses mark click points where the lily pad isn't placed, and the checkmarks where it does get placed:
This behavior also makes it possible to place lily pads on top of a block by clicking on the side or bottom of said block. I have uploaded a few screenshots of this.
Joakim Kvarme Thorsen Why did you attach these to this ticket and not to MC-237476?