Two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when there are adjacent blocks located north or west of the sapling formation
The Bug:
Two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when surrounded by any block other than a sapling that's located to the north and/or west side of the sapling formation.
This can be anything from a torch to a snow layer, to a grass block. The south and east sides do not have this blocking effect.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to the said saplings.
- Take note as to whether or not two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when there are adjacent blocks located north or west of the sapling formation.
Observed Behavior:
The saplings will never grow into trees naturally or when bone mealed.
Expected Behavior:
The saplings would grow into trees and not be prevented by adjacent blocks located north or west of the sapling formation.
Linked Issues
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Normal- Gameplay
- World generation
- jungle_sapling spruce_sapling tree-generation
13w04a - 1.21.4
13w04a 1.15.2 20w08a 20w13b 20w14a 20w15a 20w16a 20w17a 20w18a 20w19a 20w20b 20w21a 20w22a 1.16-pre1 1.16-pre2 1.16-pre3 1.16-pre4 1.16-pre5 1.16-pre7 1.16-pre8 1.16-rc1 1.16 1.16.1 20w27a 20w28a 20w29a 20w30a 1.16.2-pre1 1.16.2-pre2 1.16.2-rc1 1.16.2-rc2 1.16.2 1.16.3-rc1 1.16.3 1.16.4-pre1 1.16.4-pre2 1.16.4-rc1 1.16.4 20w45a 20w46a 20w48a 20w49a 20w51a 21w03a 1.16.5 21w05a 21w05b 21w06a 21w07a 21w08b 21w10a 21w11a 21w13a 21w14a 21w15a 21w16a 21w17a 21w18a 21w19a 21w20a 1.17-rc2 1.17 1.17.1 21w37a 21w38a 21w39a 21w40a 21w41a 21w42a 21w43a 21w44a 1.18-pre1 1.18-rc3 1.18 1.18.1 22w03a 22w05a 22w06a 1.18.2-rc1 1.18.2 22w12a 22w13a 22w14a 1.19-pre1 1.19-pre3 1.19-rc1 1.19-rc2 1.19 1.19.1-pre2 1.19.1 1.19.2 22w43a 1.19.3 1.19.4 1.20 1.20.1 23w33a 24w11a 1.20.6 1.21 1.21.1 24w36a 1.21.2-pre3 1.21.3 24w45a 1.21.4
Created Issue:
you can no longer make large jungle trees
you are no longer able to grow 4 jungle sapplings into a large jungle tree
I spammed it with 10.000 bonemeal and it stayed 4 sapplings.what I expected to happen was:the sapplings would grow into a tree
what actually happened was: the sapplings stayed sapplingsEnvironment
windows 7
you can no longer make large jungle trees if they're surrounded by snow
you are no longer able to grow 4 jungle sapplings into a large jungle tree when they are surrounded by snow as seen below. It also doesn't work under normal circumstances with a despencer instead of snow as seen below
I spammed it with 10.000 bonemeal and it stayed 4 sapplings.what I expected to happen was:the sapplings would grow into a tree
what actually happened was: the sapplings stayed sapplings
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you are no longer able to grow 4 jungle sapplings into a large jungle tree when they are surrounded by snow as seen below. It also doesn't work under normal circumstances with a despencer instead of snow as seen below
I spammed it with 10.000 bonemeal and it stayed 4 sapplings.what I expected to happen was:the sapplings would grow into a tree
what actually happened was: the sapplings stayed sapplings
windows 7
youcannolonger makelarge jungle trees if they're surrounded by snowSaplings cannot grow into large jungle or spruce trees if they're surrounded by snow
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The Bug:
2x2 arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees if surrounded by snow.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to either the spruce or jungle saplings.
Observed Behavior:
2x2 arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees if surrounded by snow.
Expected Behavior:
2x2 arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings would be able to grow into trees even when surrounded by snow.
Saplings cannot grow into large jungle or spruce trees if they'resurrounded by snow2x2 arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees if surrounded by snow
The Bug:
2x2arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into treesifsurrounded by snow.Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to either the spruce or jungle saplings.
Observed Behavior:
2x2arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into treesifsurrounded by snow.Expected Behavior:
2x2arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings would be able to grow into treesevenwhen surrounded by snow.The Bug:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to either the spruce or jungle saplings.
- Take note as to whether or not two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings can grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Observed Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Expected Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings would be able to grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
2x2arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into treesifsurrounded by snowTwo by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow
The Bug:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to either the spruce or jungle saplings.
- Take note as to whether or not two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings can grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Observed Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Expected Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings would be able to grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
The Bug:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below.
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to either the spruce or jungle saplings.
- Take note as to whether or not two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings can grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Observed Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Expected Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings would be able to grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
The Bug:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below.
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to either the spruce or jungle saplings.
- Take note as to whether or not two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings can grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Observed Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Expected Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings would be able to grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
The Bug:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to either the spruce or jungle saplings.
- Take note as to whether or not two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings can grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Observed Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Expected Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings would be able to grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
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The Bug:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to either the spruce or jungle saplings.
- Take note as to whether or not two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings can grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Observed Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
Expected Behavior:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings would be able to grow into trees when surrounded by snow.
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The Bug:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by
snow.Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to either the spruce or jungle saplings.
Take note astowhetheror not two by two arrangementsofjungleor spruce saplings can grow into trees when surrounded by snow.Observed Behavior:
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wo by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplingscannot grow into treeswhen surrounded by snow.Expected Behavior:
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wo by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings would beable to grow into trees when surrounded by snow.The Bug:
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees when surrounded by any block other than a sapling, on the north and/or west side of the sapling formation.
This can be anything from a torch, snow layer to grass block. The south and east sides do not have this blocking effect.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to either the spruce or jungle saplings.
Observed Behavior:
The saplings don't grow into trees, no matter how much bone meal is used.
Expected Behavior:
Tree growth would not get prevented by adjacent blocks of this type.
Two by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot growinto trees when surrounded by snowTwo by two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow with adjacent blocks in the north/west
The Bug:
Two
bytwo arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot growinto treeswhen surrounded by any block other than a sapling, onthe north and/or west side of the sapling formation.This can be anything from a torch
,snow layer to grass block. The south and east sides do not have this blocking effect.Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to
either the spruce or junglesaplings.Observed Behavior:
The saplings
don'tgrow into trees,no matter how muchbone mealis used.Expected Behavior:
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ree growth would not get prevented by adjacent blocks of this type.The Bug:
Two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when surrounded by any block other than a sapling that's located to the north and/or west side of the sapling formation.
This can be anything from a torch to a snow layer, to a grass block. The south and east sides do not have this blocking effect.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to the said saplings.
- Take note as to whether or not two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when there are adjacent blocks north or west of the sapling formation.
Observed Behavior:
The saplings will never grow into trees naturally or when bone mealed.
Expected Behavior:
The saplings would grow into trees and not be prevented by adjacent blocks located north or west of the sapling formation.
Twobytwo arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow withadjacent blocksin the north/westTwo-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when there are adjacent blocks north or west of the sapling formation
The Bug:
Two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when surrounded by any block other than a sapling that's located to the north and/or west side of the sapling formation.
This can be anything from a torch to a snow layer, to a grass block. The south and east sides do not have this blocking effect.
Steps to Reproduce:
- Build the setup as shown in the attachment below. setup.png
- Apply large amounts of bone meal to the said saplings.
- Take note as to whether or not two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when there are adjacent blocks located north or west of the sapling formation.
Observed Behavior:
The saplings will never grow into trees naturally or when bone mealed.
Expected Behavior:
The saplings would grow into trees and not be prevented by adjacent blocks located north or west of the sapling formation.
Two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when there are adjacent blocks located north or west of the sapling formation
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Duplicate of MC-8187
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Duplicate of MC-8187.
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I believe this might be the same issue as MC-8187. This was also previously reported as MCPE-34357, but that report was resolved as CR.
Does reposition the dispenser help?
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This is also a bug present on Java MC-8187
Steps to reproduce:
- Plant spruce or jungle saplings in a 2x2 formation.
- Place any block adjacent to the saplings on the western (X) or northern (Z) coordinates.
- Bonemeal any of the saplings.
Observed results:
They won't grow into a tree.
Expected results:
They should.
Note: They will grow when using blocks such as leaves, logs, and dirt.
Unable to reproduce. Are you sure you give them enough space to grow?
Unable to reproduce either. If it still occurs, take screenshots and create a new ticket with them.
glad you guys gave me 4 hours to respond...
anyway I found the issue, please reopen
There may not be any blocks adjacent to the north-western sapling, as this is considered as the center of the tree. More information can be found here..
okay so why does this work with just a single sappling?
Because a single sapling center block isn't on the north-western side.
Why exactly is this marked WAI? I don't see any devs explicitly confirming that this is intended.
Also, if we assume WAI, why doesn't dark oak have this restriction?
My report about they not being able to grow next to carpets has been marked as a duplication of this, and there's no relation considering this started to happen only in recent versions.
I don't see how this can be marked as intended either, considering dark oak trees and 1x1 trees of all kinds grow with no problem.
It can not even handle if you have a grid of saplings (like say 8x8) or 2x2 tree to close (less an 6 block apart).
This in 1.16.1 singelplayer, newgen world
Hi! I'd like to request ownership of this report.
Can confirm for 1.16.3rc1
Can confirm in 20w48a.
Can confirm in 21w05b.
Still an issue in 1.17.1. I'd like to add that single-sapling trees of any kind will grow just fine in snow-covered places, it's just 2x2 spruce and jungle trees that can't. 2x2 dark oak does work, however.
Can confirm in 21w38a.
Can confirm this in 21w39a. Here are some extra details regarding this problem.
The Bug:
2x2 arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees if surrounded by snow.
Steps to Reproduce:
Observed Behavior:
2x2 arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow into trees if surrounded by snow.
Expected Behavior:
2x2 arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings would be able to grow into trees even when surrounded by snow.
Can confirm in 1.19 Prerelease 2.
Can confirm in 1.19 Pre-release 3.
Can confirm in 1.19 RC1.
It's probably worth noting that this extends to basically any block occupying the same space, including ones which are completely transparent like grass or ferns. I suspect this is probably to keep the giant spruce trees with leaves on the bottom level from intersecting any blocks, but spruce saplings are ignored in that check anyway so I don't see why that couldn't be extended to include other blocks.
I also noticed that adjacent blocks are only blocking tree growth from the north and west side of the sapling formation, but not the east or south. So it doesn't have to be fully surrounded. It also doesn't matter which sapling gets applied the bone meal, all saplings in the 2x2 formation behave as if they were one single sapling with 12 adjacent sides instead of 8.
[Helper] Jack McKalling, I believe that issue is MC-118980.